Products containing LSA (such as Hawaiian Baby Woodrose and Morning Glory seeds) can be found in our LSA seeds category.

What is LSA?

LSA (Lysergic Acid Amide) is a naturally occurring psychedelic found in many plants, with a potency 1/10 to 1/30th that of LSD. It has some similarities in effect to LSD, but is generally considered much less stimulating and can be sedating in larger doses.The most common plants in which it is found are morning glory (Ipomoea violacea), of which the seeds are consumed and Hawaiian baby woodrose seeds. As many psychoactives these plants have a history of spiritual/religious use among Indian tribes in South America, and have they entered the Western world first as a somewhat obscure psychoactive.

History of LSA

The seeds of several types of tropical lianas have been used by the Indians in Mexico in their rituals for a long time. One of the first Spaniards who observed those rituals wrote in his book: "…and when the priests want to communicate with their gods and to receive their message they eat from this plant, from which they later get into delirium. Throughout the whole time they see thousands of visions and divine hallucinations…"

Because of this total negative attitude of the Spaniards towards those rituals, through the last centuries they were kept in secret; many of the scientists even began to doubt the stories of the first missioners. The mysterious lianas were found by ethnobotanist Dr. Richard Schultes in 1941; it seems that the Zapotec Indians, living in one of the Mexican states still use them with that purpose.

In 1959 Richard Schultes sent samples of a cultivated Mexican morning glory, Turbina corymbosa, to Albert Hoffman, the discoverer of LSD. In 1960, Don Thomes MacDougall reported that seeds of another morning glory, Ipomoea violacea were used as sacraments by certain Zapotecs, sometimes with the Turbina corymbosa seeds and sometimes not. This morning glory species is the one with familiar varieties in America of which not all are “active”. In the end, LSA turned out to exist also in the edible Hawaiian baby woodrose seeds (Argyreia nervosa).

Chemistry

In 1960, Hoffman analyzed the Turbina corymbosa seeds and said they contained ergot-like alkaloids. This was hard for people to believe since previously such chemicals had only been found in the rye fungus Claviceps purpurea (ergot). But Hoffman was right; the seeds contained d-lysergic acid amide. This differs from LSD only in that it has a NH2 where LSD has a N(C2H5)2, but LSD is some 50 to 100 times as potent. The morning glory Turbina corymbosa's seeds also have other psychoactive alkaloids in them: d-isolysergic acid amide, chanoclavine, elymoclavine, and lysergol.

Effects - Tripping on LSA

LSA is taken in orally and after 20 minutes it causes a dream-like state during which the consciousness of the person is completely preserved. In a little bit larger doses these symptoms may get stronger and after an hour the user usually falls asleep. As a matter of fact, LSA causes the typical for LSD visual effects very rarely, except if it is not taken in very large doses.

Onset: 2 hours or so to peak

Duration : 10 - 14 hours

Normal after effects : up to 24

Usage

1 Morning glory seed has about 0.01mg LSA.

1 Hawaiian baby woodrose seed has about 0.25mg LSA.

A common dose varies from 0.5 to 1.5 mg, a strong dose holds 1.5 to 4 mg. Do not use more than 4 mg.

For preparation and methods of consumption, see our Morning Glory and Hawaiian Baby Woodrose pages.

Warnings

Ergometrine has strong uterus-stimulating properties so it's a really bad idea for pregnant women to eat these seeds. Also, these seeds are supposed to be bad for people with liver problems (e.g. jaundice, hepatitus).

Do not combine LSA containing seeds with MAOIs. Both increase blood pressure and the rate at which the heart pumps, and combined it would be dangerous.

And, as with all psychoactive substances do not use any if there is a history or the potential of mental illness unless it has been shown to improve your condition or attitude. Do not use these substances if you are on psychotropic pharmaceuticals or other types of drugs until the research has been done on the possible interactions.

Substitutes

LSA has been seen as a natural substitute for LSD, which is semi-synthetic, stronger and produces heavier hallucinations. LSD is the best known and most researched psychedelic. It is the standard against which all other psychedelics are compared. It is active at extremely low doses and is most commonly available on blotter or in liquid form.

Storage

Both kinds of seeds may lose potency with age and temperature of storage.

Links / References

Lysergic Acid Amides

Thinkquest on lysergamide

Erowids LSD Vault




Comments

  • tom. - 2007-08-28 23:57:29 -1

    morning glory seeds are crazy.
    i took a dosage of about 200 a few months ago.
    i started to feel abitt sick after about 2 hours.
    then the effects came on.
    it felt like i was in a dream.
    but i remember being able to read the mind of my grandma who was there. i have never felt so euphoric though. i dont remember alot else apart from the walla were moving.

    i'd suggest taking this yourself if your interested.
    its a cheap good high with little side effects.

  • Seregil - 2009-02-17 19:54:18 +2

    Okay, I took 3 Hawaiian Babywoodrose seeds like 2 hours ago.
    At first I thought the stuff was never gonna kick in, when it did, I almost wanted to die, because of the sickness. It is horrible if you have eaten before and don't eat within the 2 hours "to make the sickness go away" - it doesn't!! I'm feeling terribly tired and confused. A few minutes ago I couldn't suppress the urge to laugh heavily - Euphoria I guess. Room seems brighter than usual, though I guess I'm just imagining things, coz I wanna feel some effects apart from the biliousness! ;)
    Feeling faint, though my heart rate is quickened...
    I'll just have to wait and see... :)

  • Dick - 2009-04-15 23:24:01 +1

    I took a dosage of about 75 seeds
    I was watching tv when it started to kick in, and I noticed I couldn't stop smiling.
    I had the urge to take a bath, so I did.
    I started thinking in metaphors; like the water level representing my actions in life, and the warmth representing my passion.
    After that, I got out and layed down on my bed and fell asleep.

  • DYLAN AND CHRIS - 2009-07-20 04:25:55 +2

    hello all, chris an I ate about 12 baby rosewood seeds an we feel hella fine other than the crazy stomach pains its only ben forty five or so min.s an we both notice somewhat of a different feelin as though i am slowed down listenin to my trance music its great... wel let chu know what else happens tomorrow morning.

  • w0wzer - 2009-11-10 19:41:55

    I had 7 Hawaiian baby woodrose seeds and it's crazy.

    20-30 minutes after consumption

    I felt:
    -Anxiety (Due to the fact it was probably my first time)
    -Nausea
    -Stomach pain

    1 Hour after consumption
    -It's impossible to describe, I just felt.. "nice"
    -My muscles started to tingle
    -Still minor nausea, stomach pain

    4 Hours after consumption
    -I feel great, I get distracted easily though
    -I'm hallucinating (Curtains look as if they are moving)
    -For some reason, I feel more artistic.

    If you have more questions about my experience email destr0yzr@live.com, Everything I said is true. :D

  • joshy - 2010-03-22 11:26:45

    i ate about 10 woodrose seeds and thought i had killed my brain and was never goi g to recover!! i woke up in the morning completly fine. the beggining of the trip was insane the best effects of anything iv had! i could tell what people were thinking very at one with mother nature. but i didnt respect the seeds and i really fucked my in the ass.. i went out drinking and walking around my block with mates... should of sat at home in the back yard remonising in deep thought!! goes to show what happens when you use drugs as a toy not a tool. i will def take them again in a year. i was told only to have 7 at max aswell

  • Tyla - 2010-03-30 16:07:04

    Last night I took 13 woodrose seeds.
    After about 2-3 hours I was at a hookah party and couldn't feel anything other than sick. I went home and laid in my bed. My friend staying the night at my house was sitting on the couch next to my bed and I noticed that his body looked super strange. Like a Picasso painting. Not that he looked painted, but that he was very contorted and awkwardley structured. His leg seemed to be the whole length of his body. Also with this came a restlessness. I was in my bed continuously changing positions. I also had a very high sensitivity to noise. A stereo playing "softly" (what my friends said) seemed overwhelmingly loud! At about 5 hours in I made it to my bathroom and threw up 4 times, but I felt ten times better. Back in my room I was looking at some high top Nike shoes that were blurry, then short and wide, then like a head on the ground. In the end I woke up feeling way better! My eyes were dialated so much last night that there was only about a milimeter of color left with the rest black.

  • Smokey Joe - 2010-04-17 14:15:04 +1

    Hey guys,
    I found a way to get rid of the nausea. Instead of chewing the seeds you should try to grind them up and put them in a youghurt or something. I heard when stuff in the seeds contacts your saliva it brings on the nausea effect. I took about 100 morning glory seeds a baby woodrose seed and about 10 rivea corymbosa seeds and im not feeling sick at all theres a presence in my stomach but apart from that im fine!!! try it, it really works. grinding the seeds is alot of effort though i used my grinder last time and broke a tooth and i used a pestle and mortar this time and it was just loads of effort

  • countercultures - 2010-05-07 02:54:40 -1

    100 miles wide and 10 miles high. Super atomic waves consuming me and I had to lay down for it. Consumed 220 wild Mexican seeds and it was stronger than LSD ( tripped over 40 times). Super visuals and the universe opened up with a strong ego death. Great peaceful comedown. Highly recommend to anyone who likes to break through to the other side.

  • burb - 2010-09-19 22:07:34

    I ate 450 morning glories that i blended with Strawberry milkshake. Messed me up. Ive done 5 grams of mushrooms before many times and this blew it away. I wanted to try lsd but i dont think i ever have to, the morning glory tripped me out big time. Loved it, visuals were intense, no sickness at all.

  • johnny - 2011-01-17 03:13:36

    okay. I have a lot of experience with different kinds of lsa containing seeds. After about my 12th time doing it, I looked up some thing called a "cold water extraction" which is basically grinding up te seeds, putting the seed powder in tea bags, and setting it in extreamly cold distilled water. Let that sit for about a half hour in the fridge, stir it vigorously, and repeat the process two more times. After that squeez out all of the liquid from the tea bags and put 4 drops of lemon juice in it.... Chug that shit down slowly, almost sip it actually you will trip balls depending on ow much seeds you put in.

  • sayshwon - 2011-03-15 17:58:53

    i made this shit with 70% alcohol (absinthe) to be exact and about 20,000 seeds of various types of morning glory seeds and listen this shit was more than an lsa trip on its own ....way more than lsd id say personally but fact is its to get a high grade alcohol mix with the seeds wait three days shake it often.....keep it in the freezer add some peppermint oil to every ounce two drops and the shit turns into lsh which is waaaaaaaaay more potent than lsd and lsa on its own, good trips my friends

  • Kidrites - 2011-07-18 06:14:41 +1

    I don't get it. I've tried a 500 morning glory (Heavenly Blue) dose on three different occasions using 3 different methods (whole ingestion, cold water extraction, alcohol extraction) and the psychedelic effects were consistently very, very mild. I'd go with a higher dose but I'm suffering very intense sweats and stomach cramps at this level; luckily the nausea is the least severe of the symptoms, although it certainly is present. I've got an altogether yucky feeling that is not worth the effort. I'm disappointed because of the raving things I've heard from others, though...

  • koopa420 - 2011-08-19 20:12:42 +2

    i died 1000 deaths on these. each a different horrid death. i saw god the 1st few times, then the devil had my soul and body. i projectile vomited for hours screaming with a voice that wasnt mine I AM THE DEVIL. i would slip back in to conciousness periodically to kill the demon and save humanity. i knew my body must be drowned, but my sitter refused to do so, as he was trying to bring my sanity back. the devil finally left my body when he knew he was trapped and "using my body" he punched the glass out of the window and tried to jump out. not realizing there is a also a storm window and he almost cut my toe off in doing so. almost bled to death, but the devil didnt succed and take my soul with him back down.

    LSA is not stable. if you are wanting to trip. wait till some acid comes around or go find some mushrooms. taking a high dose of HBWR seeds has changed my outlook on trippin and life/spirituality itself. once an athiest i now question everything. maybe this stuff is ok on lower doses and without the nausia, idk it showed me things i didnt need to be shown is all. use with respect. that is not even half of the anguish and terror i went through that night (total of about 8 hours) that seems like an eternity. we had only been peeking about 20 minutes and i thought the night was about over that i had tripped all night long after already having many visions. i knew right then and there it was going to be a bad night. i wasnt really looking foward to tripping on these that night to begin with and was just testing them really for future experience. i was just going to be along for the ride. (which is never a good idea) i was really worn out and exhausted before i ingested them and had been smoking (best nugs ive seen in years) LEMON KUSH!!! for the past 3 days and got a new bag right before i ate the seeds. so that stuff had my mind blown already.

    from now on im just sticking with medium dose mushroom trips. thats all i need. im now (a little bit more) insane.

  • wacko13Midwest boy - 2012-05-19 22:15:03

    Alright folks. I'm 16 and weigh around 130. I did some mg seeds (heavenly blue) and tripped like no other. I ordered 1500 seeds online and read about making them into tea.

    So I did and it didn't work so the next morning I decided to just eat some. I used 500 seeds in my tea that didn't work so that means I had 1000 left. Me and my brother(best friend) decided to just eat them, crushing them up good with our teeth. We mixed em with dried cranberries because the taste is so herbal and grain ish.

    So anyway.. we ate them at the bus stop and continued on the bus. almost all the seeds were gone (we prolly had 450 each) and our stomachs were turning. My brother threw up as soon as his foot touched out the bus. and continued about 5 more times.

    I threw up 1 (kind of 2) times. it was horrible. I remind you it was the 1st thing we ate in the morning. So we just went to school after throwing up and smoking a bowl for the nasea. about 45 minutes Later and I was tripping. I left class quickly but descreetly (i'm experienced with psychoactives) my con oohs was 100% there. But my visuals and reality itself was twisting and changing. caution: use as a tool not a rec. drug. best day ever. But slight joint pain the next day and reality seemed different the next 2 days

  • Ryan - 2012-07-16 09:53:47

    My brother had made the Hawaiian seeds stronger somehow grinding them up and mixing it with something else, then putting it in apple sauce. Later i found out that he put way too much in , because it had never worked before. I felt so sick and wanted to throw up so bad, especially with my brother throwing up in the bathroom next to my room, but i didn't! I distracted myself by playing xbox live... After an hour I was tripping out!! I remember looking up at my ceiling and seeing words all meshed together, fitting my entire ceiling perfectly and also when i looked at the tv and then looked away, i saw what was going on, on the tv still everywhere else that i looked lol. i woke the next day and was still seeing shit, but not as intense.

  • Durban, South Africa - 2013-06-09 23:06:35

    I got some heavenly blue mg seeds from a local garden shop. I grew these seeds, they grew into a monster of a plant with a 50mm diameter trunk that has produced so far a yield of +-over 1000 pods, this weekend about 6 of us took about 120 seed pods removed wet white seeds and ate them. They were disgusting I threw up twice, but I tripped hard, the best part of my trip was for about 5 seconds the light from the street lights outside my house created an effect of fire being all around my house. So It looked like the world outside was burning. I couldn't stop laughing at Ace Ventura when nature calls movie. its not for the faint hearted, be in a good mood before you eat them and don't eat about 6 hours before. Not quite as hectic as Acid, but absolutely worth it.

  • Durban, South Africa - 2013-06-09 23:20:52

    By the way each seed pod carries from 2 - 4 little white fleshy seeds, if you live in a tropical area you can grow this plant very easily, I recommend heavenly blues. The reason why you throw up, i believe is that your body rejects the seeds but by the time you call Ralph or Huey, the LSA has been absorbed into your blood stream. Get rid of what your body doesn't need or want. An when you start to worry about an alien ripping out of your stomachache, its only a bit of gas. If you don't throw up, and have these pains there is a possibility you might have some blood in your stools the next day, don't stress about this you will be fine. All i can say is be positive think positive it doesn't matter what you trip on and how bad you feel you will be fine when you wake up. traces of chlorine, light and also heat kills the alkaloids that make you trip in MG and HBWR seeds, so tea is bad idea, and also water extraction should be done with pure bottled or cooled down boiled water. Remember happy thoughts you will be ok.

  • troyboyny7 - 2013-09-19 16:14:31

    the other day i had some hbwr seeds. i crushed up 10, got hungry ate sausage... big mistake got sick 40 mins. slight tingly feeling for over an hour then fizzled away. later no high at all. last night i took 8 at one time then 4 more with 4 datura seeds still nothing, now i know i have a high tolerance for things like aspirin and tylenol diphenhydramine and things like it they do nothing for me at any dose but why can't i benefit from datura and hbwr??? i have tried datura tea with leaves flowers stem, and tried smoking it nothing but a very subtle buzz less than a pot high. i guess this is why some people take lethal dosages any less is useless!!!!! i would try to extract the lsa but i hate using other chemicals if datura or lsa don't kill ya other chems will.

  • JoshMasterKush - 2014-02-24 16:35:12

    Made a 100 seed extract. Dissolved it in 2 ml of water. Sat in the freezer till I was ready to drink it, maybe 4 days. Drank it down, 45 minutes later I felt it start to kick in. 2 hours later I was lets says, deep inside the rabbit hole. In the best state of my life since the last time I did LSD. Great time, just made 200 seed extract today, gonna be a good time. It was fun, no body load, no nausea best way to take it.

  • JoshMasterKush - 2014-02-24 16:36:30

    HBWR is the best way to go. 100 seed extract is awesome.

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